Going Out On A Limb With Brian Borre, MA, LMFT, LADC

In another life, Brian would have been any college student’s dream Philosophy or Creative Writing professor because he makes you think without feeling judged. He doesn’t pepper you with questions, or reflexively challenge your answers for the sake of being contrarian. And while you can tell that there is always something percolating just beneath the surface, it never feels like he’s holding something back from you, creating a power imbalance, or checked-out in the moment. He’s just effortlessly curious, compassionate, and clear about his boundaries: he won’t work harder than you do. 

 Perhaps part of what makes Brian a refreshing therapist to Minnesotans is that he’s not from here; being a Chicago native, he can observe the “Minnesota Nice” practices of passivity, but he’s not limited to them. He’s not afraid to sit in silence, push on a button, or meet clients where they are at--it all just depends on what the client’s needs are. While he identifies as more of a “generalist,” or someone who sees a variety of client populations, Brian likes to work with blended families, young professionals, and couples because of his own personal experiences. When it’s appropriate, Brian has found it can really help to have someone who has been through some of those experiences help validate your feelings, normalize what’s happening, and help figure out what comes next. 

 One thing you might find surprising about Brian: His first professional venture had nothing to do with therapy! While he always felt a calling towards private practice, and his undergraduate major focused on Psychology and Sociology, Brian took a several-year detour into the Culinary Arts! Brian worked in professional kitchens near Yosemite National Park and “really loved it.” What’s really surprising about this tidbit isn’t even the professional pivot, it’s the fact that he identifies as a “professional chef who now doesn’t cook.” He’s clear he’s diplomatic about shared household labor, but in terms of creative expression and self-care, he’d rather spend his time watching or reading Science Fiction, having adventures with his kids, or playing guitar. 

On coping with the pandemic: Brian admits that his coping with the pandemic has shifted as the world starts to open up again. Early on, his coping came from fitness, work, reading, and nature; things that would help him to ground or find some semblance of normalcy. Now that we’re able to explore more, he finds himself coping with the uncertainty by noticing the “absolute, purest joy” that his children are experiencing. Even if vicarious, the “wonder they have and excitement for everything they’re doing, it’s like watching them discover it all for the first time,” which helps him hold on to gratitude, wonder, and simplicity, even in the most uncertain or ambiguous of times. 

 Walk-Up Song: Brian’s ideal walk-up song, “would be something like a mash-up between The Sex Pistols and Beethoven,” which we think is pretty indicative of his style: a balance between classical approaches and total anarchy. Since that song doesn’t technically exist yet (and Brian’s musical skills are limited to the guitar), the closest thing he could think of was London Punkharmonic Orchestra’s cover of “Pretty Vacant” (originally by The Sex Pistols). While we were skeptical at first, we might be able to add this to our waiting room playlist…

Professional pet-peeve: Brian is “other professionals who stop learning or continue to learn in a singular way.” From Brian’s perspective, having an interest as a clinician in anything ranging from music to Mythology, Stoicism to sports, nature or technology, literally whatever you choose to learn about, can inform how we experience our lives and others. Brian believes that a narrow focus or general lack of curiosity can contribute to the greatest of professional offenses: shaming and invalidating clients.

Favorite tool in the Therapist Toolbox: By this point in the blog, you’re probably not going to be surprised that Brian is anti-assessment and scales. To be fair, he does believe in referring to psych testing, understands the value of tracking relevant data, and ongoing anecdotal assessments. He just doesn’t believe in universal measures of unique situations, or snapshots in time meant to reflect something grander. In his experience, some of the most standardized tools can bring about shame for clients because they “didn’t make progress fast enough, or felt like they had a better week but their depression assessment is high today,” and it can cause undue harm. Instead, Brian often uses an ecological approach to help clients reflect on what is going on in their life at any given moment, on a bunch of different levels. If you’ve never had one, it can sort of look like a target with each ring reflecting a different domain of our life. This way, “we’re checking the health of their system as it is today--not just focusing on all the bad at work or home, it’s bringing it back into a larger context and perspective so there’s more balance and insight.” 

 If you have any questions about Brian, his approach, or think he might be a fit for you, please reach out to us at bizoffice@birchcounseling.com or get in touch through the “Contact Us” tab on our website. Otherwise, stay tuned for our next blog post where we put the spotlight on how Brian’s “Meta” thinking translates into Metacognitive Therapy with clients!